20 comments

  • makmanalp 1 hour ago
    Man every time I want to get a new macbook air they come up with a new macbook pro which means 6 months later they're going to come up with a new generation of airs by which time I think "let me wait a bit and see if people like it", and so here I am with a 2022 M2 that is perfectly fine except for the disk being too small.
    • FinnKuhn 40 minutes ago
      I still have the original M1 Pro (thankfully with enough disk space) and I still don't really see a reason to upgrade. Since the M1 all these MacBooks are more than powerful enough for anything I might want to do and the original battery life was so good an upgrade would harldy be worth it.
    • rickdeckard 1 hour ago
      The unbearable burden of consumerism.

      "You didn't even finish your M2 yet and already want to refill your plate?"

    • neilsimp1 49 minutes ago
      Genuine question from someone who knows nothing about Apple products... can't you replace/upgrade the drive?
      • pbasista 38 minutes ago
        They are soldered in. Replacement itself can probably be done by a professional repair technician who is equipped with the right tools. But it is not a self-service job that anyone can do.

        On top of that, the drives might be somehow paired to the motherboard. And I would imagine that pairing a new one with the existing motherboard may require some proprietary software that only Apple has.

        These are only my assumptions though. People e.g. at Louis Rossmann's repair shop might know more.

      • 233mhz 41 minutes ago
        Oh you silly boy, of course you can, it's extremely easy, here is a video showing how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrg7nPG6_UU
        • AppleBananaPie 39 minutes ago
          Thanks! I can't believe I didn't know how easy this is!
      • arghwhat 42 minutes ago
        Heh, no, it's soldered.

        If you throw enough money at a sufficiently skilled technician it can be done, but no M.2 slots in sight here.

      • alt227 37 minutes ago
        This is an Apple device, the word upgrade does not exist in their world.
    • telesilla 55 minutes ago
      I'm still on my early 2022 macbook 14" M1, which I was thoughtful enough to get 64gb ram for at the time, and remain still incredibly happy. M6 must be nuts!
    • karim79 28 minutes ago
      Exactly the same story here. I'm still very happily using an M2, which is just great.
    • rTX5CMRXIfFG 41 minutes ago
      Just get the Air. Moore's law peaked a long time ago and the differences between the M-generations are too small to be meaningful.
      • dreamcompiler 15 minutes ago
        I got a used M2 Air a year ago and it's the best Apple laptop I've ever owned. And I've owned dozens.

        Plus it runs Asahi linux on the metal.

    • paxy 16 minutes ago
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  • weystrom 1 hour ago
    Great hardware, but I can't stand MacOS anymore after switching to Linux on home dekstop. KDE is such a breath of fresh air after years of dealing with Apple's idiosyncrasies.

    I think I'll keep my Framework 13 Pro preorder.

    • cosmic_cheese 39 minutes ago
      I’m using KDE on the gaming box I recently transitioned away from Windows as well as on a secondary single-use laptop where Linux has been installed for a while.

      It’s not bad, but I find it still to be very much an acquired taste. It’s fine for my usage, where the DE has barely any impact but having been using macOS as my main OS for the better part of 30 years, it would probably drive me insane if I had to shift my main body of computer use to it. It’s not any one thing, but dozens of papercuts that can’t be configured away (I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them) as well as the more Windows-like desktop paradigm.

      • alt227 34 minutes ago
        > I’d need to maintain my own fork to fix them

        At least this is an option with Linux

        • cosmic_cheese 33 minutes ago
          In theory maybe, but in reality it’s a full-time job keeping up with changes from mainline with big projects like KDE, which isn’t very practical if you need to do other things to keep a paycheck coming in.
          • alt227 29 minutes ago
            "Claude, update my project to be compatible with the latest KDE changelog"
    • 100percentjake 31 minutes ago
      I'm a habitual device-swapper and I'm staggered by how... satisfied I am with my 8 year old Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Fedora KDE on it.
    • gosub100 4 minutes ago
      I would buy apple hardware instantly if you could seamlessly install Linux on it just like a PC. Even if you had to "burn a fuse" to permanently detached it from Apples support and ecosystem.

      I love and respect what Asahi has done but I want apple to support a turn key, open drivers, everything works, system.

    • cdelsolar 43 minutes ago
      Yeah I use KDE as well for my desktop and it’s the perfect environment. (Btw I use Arch)

      Still I’m very tempted by the new MacBooks. I don’t know of any laptop that is a tenth as good and I don’t want to sit at my desk all day to use a computer.

  • paxy 40 minutes ago
    Minor rant – why come up with a consistent CPU naming scheme (Mx generation with Pro, Max etc. tiers) but then sell variants of each with different numbers of cores? It tosses the entire convention out of the window.

    It is especially annoying during resale or benchmarking, because “M5 Pro” by itself doesn't convey enough information, and you have to count the number of CPU & GPU cores to figure out the actual SKU.

    • drum55 10 minutes ago
      They’re binned, not every piece of silicon will work perfectly so they’re selling the ones that did as higher SKUs and the ones with minor flaws become the lower core counts.
    • 100percentjake 30 minutes ago
      After getting my M1 MBP I mostly stopped paying attention to the new releases until the M4 came out and I decided to see how much "better" it was and was equally completely baffled by the insane number of SKUs and their seeming overlap. Insane product lineup decisions.
    • smugma 9 minutes ago
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  • elicash 1 hour ago
    Nano-texture upgrade option is coming for the whole line of products.

    Edit: the thing I'm confused about is it seems there are at least two but maybe three different things that they are calling "nano-texture". On buying screens, the Studio Display and iPad Mini say "Nano-texture glass" and the new MacBook Pro says "Nano-texture display." But the Duo marketing says "Nano-texture finish."

    I get that the internal Duo screen has the film over it and so it says "finish," but is there a difference between "glass" and "display"?

    • rickdeckard 1 hour ago
      "Nano-texture glass" and "Nano-texture display" should refer to the same: A microscopic etching into the display glass.

      "Nano-texture finish" on iPhone Duo refers to an additional layer they put on top of the display panel. It's basically a sticker with a similar (same?) surface structure (they can't put it on the display glass itself because it's too thin)

    • codeduck 58 minutes ago
      It's preparation for the inevitable nano-texture cloth you need to buy from Apple to wipe the screen with.
    • resters 57 minutes ago
      Maybe Apple is shifting the terminology from display to glass as an homage to fine watch terminology.
    • floydnoel 1 hour ago
      I could be wrong, but I think glass=hard, while finish=soft. The inside Duo screen is not hard like the outer glass.
      • elicash 57 minutes ago
        I get glass vs finish. But there's a third term being used for the new M6 MacBook Pro, which is nano-texture "display." Someone clarified that it's the same as the "glass" so I take this to just be Day 1 marketing confusion that'll hopefully get cleaned up on the buying screen.
    • commandersaki 1 hour ago
      You mean even for the air?
  • Havoc 1 hour ago
    Interesting choice of pic...a guy with a military camo hat, laptop propped up on a hardshell field deployment case...but in a crop field. That's quite a departure from Appe's usual creatives sipping soy lattes vibe
    • lp92 55 minutes ago
      They are just trying to portray "working in the field" creative types/students and alluding to all day battery life.
    • ZeroCool2u 33 minutes ago
      I had a similar thought too looking at that photo and then I realized that personally, the only computer I've ever used out 'in the field' for extended durations was a MBP when I was working on an autonomous drone project senior year of undergrad.

      It was November/December in Iowa, so it was freezing and the local R/C club airfield was nestled between an ocean of corn fields and the city dump, so it smelled terrible.

      But that 16" MBP was red hot from Android Studio and kept my fingers from freezing, so credit where credit is due. Really fun project too!

    • rubyfan 59 minutes ago
      It looks more like students to me.
      • kotaKat 57 minutes ago
        The alt-text was "Two people perform fieldwork using MacBook Pro outdoors on a sunny day", apparently.
        • paxy 50 minutes ago
          Lmao so some human/AI was told to show "fieldwork" and decided it meant people standing in the middle of a field.
          • eli 46 minutes ago
            Some fieldwork does happen in a field. They look like perhaps botany or biology students.
    • eli 46 minutes ago
      Nothing about that picture looks military
    • financetechbro 50 minutes ago
      Not all camo is military. That to me looks more like the camo that you find at bass pro shop
      • FinnKuhn 38 minutes ago
        To me it looks like farmers or biologists that use a MacBook because it is durable and has excellent battery life (or at least that seems to be the message when you read the rest of the announcement).
    • bcvvvy 42 minutes ago
      Especially seeing is the things break if you fart near them too loudly.
  • timpera 1 hour ago
    Bring back Boot Camp and let us install Windows 11 on these, you cowards!
    • SomeonesAccount 1 hour ago
      Why the heck would one want to do that???
      • TheDong 59 minutes ago
        I purchase the hardware, I should be able to do what I want with it. I want apple hardware for the good processor specs and battery life and general hardware quality.

        Apple should be forced to release the necessary hardware specs to develop drivers so that I can use my hardware I purchased as I want. They should be required to let me own my own signing keys to boot my own software.

        Anyway, I'd personally want bootcamp because it's a step closer to being able to install Linux, an operating system that lets me have a good tiling window manager that works.

        Why the heck would anyone want to use macOS willingly, where the window manager and file browser are both complete unconfigurable trash.

        • rTX5CMRXIfFG 44 minutes ago
          There's just no getting "then don't buy it" for people who obviously don't agree with Apple's terms and conditions, is there? Not every product sold in the market will be done your way, and you can't act oppressed here because if you don't like Apple computers, you have a ton of other options...
        • SJMG 50 minutes ago
          > Why the heck would anyone want to use macOS willingly, where the window manager and file browser are both complete unconfigurable trash.

          How about suffer a lightly deoptimized workflow on one platform for the interoperability of the ecosystem…?

      • timpera 45 minutes ago
        I recently snagged a really good deal on a Macbook (very nice hardware!), but the more I use it, the more I struggle with macOS (even though a few utilities can help bring some of Windows' features).

        I used to be able to completely boot into Windows on my Intel mac a few years ago, but Apple no longer supports it for some reason. It's a shame, especially since the ARM64 version of Windows 11 has gotten very good now.

        It would also be nice to be able to install Linux too. It's my own hardware, after all!

        • freeone3000 31 minutes ago
          Windows for ARM requires specific support for each device. They don’t have it for arm macs - Windows 11 simply will not boot.

          As for linux, https://asahilinux.org/ currently supports M1/M2 quite well, and is approaching ready on M3+

        • ericmay 41 minutes ago
          > It would also be nice to be able to install Linux too. It's my own hardware, after all!

          You can install both Windows and Linux on MacBooks. For Windows you may need to buy Parallels[1] or something but you can do it.

          [1] https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/

          • timpera 37 minutes ago
            Are you sure? It is my understanding that Parallels is just a VM, like VMWare Fusion, and that there's no way to natively dual boot Windows on Apple Silicon.

            Looks like you're right about Linux though, I didn't know about Asahi Linux. Thank you for sharing.

            • ericmay 33 minutes ago
              It achieves the same thing or close enough. Apple isn't going to spend engineering resources (i.e. time and money) to build an easy way to install Windows. There isn't really a point for them to do so. There are other ways around it to be able to actually install Windows 11 specifically but Parallels is going to be your best bet.

              Sadly I also can't natively install my Nintendo Switch software on my Xbox.

      • ta8903 49 minutes ago
        Yeah, I don't get it.

        If you could install linux, however, then I would buy one yesterday.

      • alt227 40 minutes ago
        Choice and freedom?
      • SJMG 52 minutes ago
        Run software without crossover/parallels/wine/GPTK
    • freeone3000 33 minutes ago
      Windows 11 is missing devicetree support for arm macs. It won’t boot.

      You might be better off waiting for an Asahi linux update.

    • mococa 58 minutes ago
      Do you want AIshitification on your mac?
      • timpera 54 minutes ago
        No, I just want to be able to boot into Windows 11. It worked really well on Intel macs.
  • gniv 1 hour ago
    And it's still $1999. That's impressive. I paid the same for the M1 Pro in 2021.
    • magicmicah85 7 minutes ago
      That impressed me the most. 1TB storage is minimum now too.
    • culopatin 1 hour ago
      And it’s still working amazing. Other than trying to run an agent locally I haven’t ran into any limiting bottlenecks
      • gniv 20 minutes ago
        Mine has a broken fan so I have to run it in slow mode and it's still working fine.
    • Hamuko 36 minutes ago
      A bit less impressive considering that it's the M6 and not the M6 Pro.
      • tefkah 7 minutes ago
        like really what's the point of this laptop man, just trying to get more money out of people who otherwise wouldve gotten the M6 Air?
    • mono442 1 hour ago
      They have huge margins and can absorb price increases of some of the components.
  • alberth 1 hour ago
    I thought Apple "Pro & Tell" day is tomorrow.

    Makes me now wonder what's in store for tomorrow's pro launch.

    • mastry 1 hour ago
      Touchscreens, supposedly.
  • maromocooo 4 minutes ago
    I think I'll skip this one. Apple's M-series chips are so good that my upgrade cycles just keep getting longer and longer...
  • petetnt 1 hour ago
    It seems that you can only get 32GBs of RAM maximum for the new 14" M6 Macbooks? M5 still has 64GB options available. edit: the larger configurations are only available for the Pro and Max chips apparently.
    • cmdrmac 1 hour ago
      I think the M5 Pro can be configured with the 64 gb option, not the regular m5 chip.
    • lettergram 41 minutes ago
      I'm running an M5 max with 128Gb of RAM right now on a 14" macbook pro
  • throwaway270925 46 minutes ago
    Apparently after the memory and storage shortage we are also experiencing a power supply shortage now - if you choose the base 16GB/1TB config you cant even choose any power supply as an option, guess its a use-once device now...
    • artimaeis 35 minutes ago
      There's a "Select your adapter" option right below the memory and storage options that lets you select between the 70 W and 96 W options.
    • ericmay 44 minutes ago
      For Apple's laptop range when was the last time you could choose your power supply? Was that ever an option?

      Am I missing something?

      (since I'm rate limited)....

      With the OP's comment "guess its a use-once device now..." I was thinking they meant power supply in the desktop sense, not the power adapter. I have no idea why a power adapter would be the thing that makes a laptop a "use-once" device.

      But yes in the configuration options you can choose between two power adapters.

      • entrope 39 minutes ago
        Apple laptops historically included a power supply. Now some models don't, and you have to buy it as a separate item.

        I appreciate the frustration, but as a separate item then a user can choose any power supply on the market, rather than being stuck with one that Apple chose.

        • artimaeis 33 minutes ago
          All models of Apple laptops still include a power supply, scroll down to the "What’s in the Box" section.
      • artimaeis 37 minutes ago
        I think the M2 Macbook Air was the first time I remember seeing an option, choosing between a 2 port charger or a single port one.

        Edit: Even today if you go to the Macbook Pro config tool you get to choose between the standard 70 W or upgraded 96 W.

  • carruler 1 hour ago
    Don't think it's worth moving from previous max products yet to be honest. My M3 MAX still does a hell of a job whenever I need it.
    • cmenge 53 minutes ago
      Agree. I'm still on my M1 Max w/ 32g, and I can't really find a reason to upgrade.
  • arkwin 18 minutes ago
    32GB of RAM only? What? Also weird that they are talking about token speed, but no larger LLMs can fit on this thing.

    Also, what happened to the I/O?? I was happy to see on the M4 they had HDMI, an SD card slot, and more. Why are they back to 2 USB-C ports? I only see pictures of one side, but the left side has traditionally had more I/O.

    C'mon, Apple, do better. It's a PRO model, not a MacBook Air

    • tefkah 11 minutes ago
      while understandable i think you are too hasty. the side shown does indeed only have two usb c ports and the magsafe port, but the other side will almost certainly still have the usb c, hdmi, and card reader (cant remember if they added a second usb c port there at some point as well)

      also, i don't blame you for this given that Apple's naming scheme is so fucked here but the 32gb limitation is for the MacBook Pro with the M6, _not_ the MacBook Pro with the M6 Pro or M6 Max. yes, that is confusing, but imo the standard MacBook "Pro" with the base M chip is basically a glorified MacBook Air with a better chassis. I feel like they only sell these things to make the Air seem like a better deal and to justify a higher price for the M Pro / Max versions

      edit: those M Pro versions may be announced tomorrow alongside a version with, or those being the version with a touchscreen

      https://www.macrumors.com/2026/10/25/macbook-pro-with-touchs...

  • Danox 1 hour ago
    Nice, but in the long term, Apple is going to need to bring memory in-house.
  • browningstreet 1 hour ago
    I got the 14” M5 with 24GB RAM and love it. Better screen than an Air; more portable than the Pro. Great middle machine.
  • coreyh14444 1 hour ago
    Wasn't this rumored to have OLED or am I confusing it with something else?
  • weird-eye-issue 1 hour ago
    After using a 16" laptop it would be hard for me to go back
    • carlgreene 1 hour ago
      I feel like I am about to go the opposite way lol. Love the 16" screen...hate lugging it around
      • SecretDreams 1 hour ago
        Really just function of mobility? Move a lot? 15-16 is combersome. Stationary often, maybe just roaming from your desk to your couch/bed? 16 is totally fine.

        I'm in the 14-15 camp w/ lighter form factors being worth the premium.

        I tried below 13 after the trend of smaller laptops from a couple years back - I now don't believe anyone who tells me they're regularly productive on these smaller form factors lol.

        • nick_ 16 minutes ago
          A 15" MacBook Air with a 120Hz OLED would be perfect IMO.
    • commandersaki 1 hour ago
      Yeah. I love my 16" almost max specced out, but for travel I wanted something lighter and compact so I got a 13" m5 mba.

      Love both.

    • icedchai 1 hour ago
      Same. I had a 14" M1 Pro and found it the screen too small for my aging eyes.
    • kphorn 1 hour ago
      The good news is bigger laptops coming tomorrow in the phased release.
    • DetroitThrow 1 hour ago
      I ended up doing the opposite! After being on the go with 15, 16, and 17 inch laptops I've finally moved to smaller 13 and 14 inch screens.

      It's much, much easier to transport even though I do miss the screen real estate.

      • technothrasher 1 hour ago
        I travel a lot with my 13" MacBook Air and can't imagine wanting to deal with anything bigger and heavier.
      • eknkc 1 hour ago
        Yeah 14" pro is the best thing I have ever moved around with. I have a studio display at my desk though.
  • lettergram 42 minutes ago
    Am I reading this correct? Max of 32Gb of RAM?

    > With 16GB of unified memory standard, configurable up to 32GB, and higher memory bandwidth up to 170GB/s, MacBook Pro makes multitasking and working with demanding apps and large projects even faster.

    So they're basically removing the ability to run local models effectively. I wonder if they'll bifurcate their market to enable those.

    • ericmay 36 minutes ago
      > I wonder if they'll bifurcate their market to enable those.

      No they won't, the market for "running local models" is approximately 0. There's nothing to bifurcate anyway because once they release the more capable chips they'll be able to be configured with hiring amounts of RAM.

      Apple in recent years has been updating their laptop range or specific models (Air or something) with their latest base M series chip (M4, M5, M6, &c.) and then later comes the higher end CPUs. But the base series chips don't have the hardware to it seems support higher RAM loads, or maybe they are artificially restricted in some way.

  • kingleopold 29 minutes ago
    16gb for default ram? is this a joke? base level is same for almost 5 years now, crazy level of slow upgrades, basically anyone needs pro device will never purchase the default specs, even air makes more sense.
  • eastbound 1 hour ago
    Apple has moved from a "Big day out" of marketing per year, where all product lineups would be announced, with novelty and conferences, to rolling releases along the year.

    Do they get the same marketing impact?